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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:12 pm
by taifun

I have several friends and workmates who swear that a week without sweets removes the craving permanently, while a single lapse puts them back on the chocolate train. My wife tends to disagree, her craving never goes away!

I'm not all that much of a sweet tooth, but I'm pretty hard on the fruit though.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:14 am
by Dinna
Thanks so much for the replies :)
I guess I should add that I don't like meat much and trying to stick with a mostly vegetarian diet so I really need my fresh fruit and grains (not including wheat). I still believe that those are healthy choices although a lot of you might disagree with me :) You all might be right though, I guess I should do a cold turkey!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:38 am
by aussiechick
Hey Dinna

Don't worry no one is going to razz you for your eating beliefs here :lol:

I think I've loaned my copy of Protein Power out so I can't check for sure but I believe from memory that they covered it for vegetarians too.

Lots of fish? eggs? protein shakes? I know Kevin is not a big fan of soy and neither am I, but each to their own. Nuts are always good for a healthy filling snack.


Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:39 am
by Dinna
How come you aren't fans of soy? :)

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:31 pm
by aussiechick
There is a post under the recipes forum called Wanted Ideas for a Reluctant Vegefied Family which might have some useful info for you.

Really need Kevin or NatureDoc to give you more info about soy.


Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:02 am
by taifun
Have a look herefor some of the problems of soy

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:17 am
by Dinna
Ok thanks. I guess I'll have to look into that some more. Surprisingly enough I never heard that about soy before though. I don't eat a lot of it but sometimes I have a glass of soy milk smoothie and I like soy beans, all organic of course. I still feel that soy is a great source of protein but I'll definitely take what you're saying into consideration :)

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:29 am
by Admin
For women it is a little less because estrogen is not a concern and the verdict is not out that aspect of it is still up for debate. I avoid soy personally because they like most legumes contain lectins and anti nutrients that have issues with the human digestive system in regard to nutrient absorption.

Here is some published research for further reading for those interested.

Again I am just offering suggestion and my perspective based on personally experience. Everybody is different so do whatever you want it is your body and it is all about balance and what will make you happy.

All I suggest if is you have tried for a long time without success to get in shape as I did you consider giving this a shot because it really works.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:45 am
by Dinna
Thanks for the reply :)
It's great that it has worked so well for you! I'm not sure it would work well for me, because I'm not fond of meat and basically I don't believe in eating foods you don't like, it never lasts. It all comes down to calories anyway and that's my real problem. I eat too large portions and more carbs and refined foods than I need. What do you suggest eating instead of meat? How about whey protein shakes?

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:10 pm
by Dinna
Breakfast: Oatmeal with flax seeds, raisins and skim milk.
Lunch: Soy milk smoothie with raspberries, strawberries, banana and 1 tsps honey.
Dinner: 3 pieces of brown bread with liver paté and fried fish, onions and pickles.
Snacks: Lots of carrots, a banana, almonds, 4 dried dates, 4 pieces of dark chocolate (70%) and lots of herbal tea.

Not the worst day today but still have to cut some carbs.. so hard :(

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:02 pm
by Admin
I would say replace the refined carbs and grains with fruits and vegetables as often as possible and get be sure to get enough healthy mono saturated fat like olive oil or avocados. Fat will make you feel full and slow the sugar absorption to prevent insulin levels to climb 1 tsp per meal should be good as dressing or whatever. Calories are of some importance but the hormonal state of the body (insulin) is of key importance. Keeping insulin in check is a matter of keeping carbohydrates in small quantities and with a low glycemic index. The dark chocolate is an outstanding choice when you crave something sweet because high quality dark chocolate is extremely satisfying but has a relatively small amount of sugar. Fruits and vegetables are an extremely good choice as carbohydrates because they have high nutrient density, high fiber, low glycemic index and low glycemic load. I will try to assist you as best I can. This is a good resource try to keep your carb intake as low gi/gl as possible and if possible eat under 20g of carbohydrates per meal until you reach your goals. Why protein is a good way to get protein if you do not like meat just make sure it does not contain sugar Jarrow makes a good product.


Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:38 pm
by Dinna
Hey Kevin, thanks so much for posting! If I add whey protein I think I should be able to keep carbs under 20 grams per meal because that will fill me up more, I'll go out and buy some tomorrow. And great to hear that dark chocolate is a good choice, thats what I wanted to hear :)

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:00 am
by Dinna

Breakfast: Oatmeal with raisins, flax seeds and skim milk.
Lunch: 3 egg omelette with spinach, olive oil, 1 tomato and 1/2 avocado, 1 small glass of soy milk smoothie with banana and pear.
Dinner: 2 tortilla wraps with soy beans, olive oil, 1/2 avocado, 1 tomato, lettuce, cucumber, corn and onions. 4 olives.
Snacks: Smoothie with skim milk, whey protein, raspberries, strawberries and banana. Some almonds and hazelnuts. Lots of herbal tea.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:28 am
by Admin
Good job,

Here are some good books that are a great help

Protein Power lifespan: Michael and Marie Eaded M.D.
they offer options to those who do not like meat.

Paleo Diet: Loren Cordain, Ph.D.
Another great book along the same lines

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:51 am
by Dinna

Breakfast: 1 banana, oatmeal, flax seeds and raisins with skim milk.
Lunch: 2 large glasses of whey protein shake with raspberries, strawberries, skim milk and banana.
Dinner: 3 egg omelette with spinach, olive oil, 1 tomato, cucumber and onions in a tortilla wrap.
Snacks: 2 small hot dogs, 2 mini snickers, a handful of almonds, 2 pieces of dark chocolate (85%), 1 plum.