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Leveling Up question

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:52 am
by zorg
Hello,

I got a question re going up a level. I started a few weeks ago at Level 1, but since that was too easy, I switched to Level 2. Today, I finished L2D3 in 4:53 - definitely under 5 minutes. I even felt that I could have pushed more, and finished maybe 20 seconds earlier.
Also, I tried to use good form, and not get sloppy.

So far, so good. Looks like I should progress to Level 3.

However.

From the "Compare your progress" chart, I see that I'm not really ahead of the users displayed there. Also, I'm not that athletic - I have a desk job, after all.

So, do I do anything wrong? Or should I just level up, and not think too much about it? Maybe I'm just fitter than I thought?

Thanks for your answers!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:13 pm
by volleyball_man
The simplefit protocol is to level up. An unwritten protocol here (and should be everywhere) is that you have the final say over what you feel like your body can handle. Listen to it.

I've found that there is a trading of abilities to perform on one component or another as I progress. Pushups get difficult, then pullups, then squats. So, as you level up you might be surprised that, at some point, one of the movements you are doing suddenly seems harder at a given level.

Since you intimated that you are not very athletic - are you watching your form? When I first started bodyweight exercises - I cheated on squats and pushups without realizing it. Once I got focused on proper form, my numbers dropped significantly. A good resource for checking your form is to view the videos on crossfit. The digital coach thread on their discussion board helped me a lot.

What are your physical stats? I am 6'4 235 - pullups are a lot more of a challenge for me than the 5'5 male who weighs 125, even if I might be in "better shape." There are some in here who have added weight to the pullups...

Damn - this is good coffee I've been drinking lately...

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:43 pm
by zorg
volleyball_man wrote:Since you intimated that you are not very athletic - are you watching your form?


Yes, I did, because I wanted to avoid good numbers only due to sloppiness/bad form.

I'll check the vids (again, just to be sure), and unless these point out something I'm doing wrong, I guess I'll level up.

What are your physical stats?


180cm, about 76-78 kg. That's about 6', 150 lbs, if I'm not mistaken. I'm not overweight, just not muscular. More on the skinny side.

Well, thanks for your help. :)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:04 pm
by splint
I really don't see a problem here. I went back and looked at my logs. I spent two weeks at Level 1 but only one week at Level 2 (finisihing D3 in 4:44) before moving on to Level 3, that's basically where you are right? I don't even pay attention to the "compare your progress portion" and you certainly shouldn't use it to decide whether to level up.

Afterall, there are 8 levels to this thing and Level 3 is a big change with the 2 pull-ups on the D1 rounds. For example, if you did 30 rounds in L2D1 that only comes to 30 pull-ups, if you do the same number of rounds in L3D1, you've done 60 pull-ups. Big difference in terms of work done in 20 minutes.

I also agree with vbm in terms of noticing different weaknesses on different days. Sometimes I breeze through the pull-ups only to feel weak in push-ups. Sometimes pull-ups are a struggle but I breeze through push-ups and squats. I even breezed through pull-ups and push-ups one day only to hit a wal with the squats where I needed to take a break every 10 reps for some reason.

If you think you can go up a level, do it. Worst case scenario is you go up too soon and the workouts take you too long. Then just go back a level.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:06 pm
by volleyball_man
splint wrote:If you think you can go up a level, do it. Worst case scenario is you go up too soon and the workouts take you too long. Then just go back a level.


That's it in a nutshell.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:38 am
by zorg
splint wrote:For example, if you did 30 rounds in L2D1 that only comes to 30 pull-ups, if you do the same number of rounds in L3D1, you've done 60 pull-ups. Big difference in terms of work done in 20 minutes.


Good point. I just finished L3D1, and got 20 reps (compared to 28 at L2). Worked fine.

Again, thanks all for the advice.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:28 am
by volleyball_man
Good job!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:49 pm
by ucffool
In regards to the 'compare your progress' part of the log, I created it because some people just need that competitive aspect. It was never meant to be a detractor or influence 'leveling up'. Especially on lower levels, it will be highly variable compared to others because of their skill level (if they start at Level 1 and should have started at level 3, it skews).
Also, to clarify, it takes the best time/rounds you have and compares it to the last 4 people to put in entries (their best round/time) who have completed a level no higher than yourself (so it ignores those on level 5 that would do a rest week at level 2 and thus be out of whack with your skill on that level).

Hope that makes a bit of sense.